Yes, I’m a junkie for PBS News Hour, watch this video and you’ll understand why! Last night they talked about Sheryl Sandberg’s (COO of Facebook) new book Lean In on female leadership.  I found their panel’s insights into the book enlightening, so I’ve copied a bit of the video transcript down here.

KATHA POLLITT

The main responsibility for changing this situation cannot rest on individual women. There are plenty of women who have leaned in very hard and are just invisible to people who do not want to employ women. They may think they do, but each individual woman, somehow, she’s not the right woman.

That’s why I would place much more emphasis than Sheryl Sandberg does on things like affirmative action, anti-discrimination suits, quotas. Do you know that the only countries where women are gaining in representation in legislatures are countries that have quotas of how many women should be there and parties that have quotas of how many women candidates they put up?

If things keep going this way in America, it is going to be 70 years before we get to parity in Congress.

DANIELLE BELTON

The problem is she wrote a book that was for all women, as opposed to narrowing the focus there. And so I feel like that’s where a lot of this criticism and confusion is coming from, because a lot of things she says make sense if she is talking about her own peers. It doesn’t necessarily make sense if she’s talking about all women in general, because the plight of working-class, poor and middle-class women is demonstrably different.

It really boils down to family leave. I mean, women are trying to create this work-life balance. And until business accommodates that, it is always going to be an issue.

JODY GREENSTONE MILLER

I think if we listen to her, however, we will not solve the problem that she herself so eloquently states, which is how do we get to a world where half of our leaders are women? And I believe if that’s our goal, which I think it should be, the problem is women aren’t leaning in not because they don’t know how to, but because they don’t like the wold they’re being asked to lean into.

JUDY WOODRUFF asks: So, you’re saying employers have responsibility here, too?

I think employers and our culture. I think it’s about what kind of leaders we want.

Do we want leaders only who go through this particular path? Or do we want to create other routes to leadership that allow for a diversity of people, broadly speaking, not just women, but men and women, to get to leadership positions with a different set of choices than Sheryl and her peers are making?

The video is definitely worth a watch, and it may even inspire you to pick up a copy of the book.